I want to be able to listen to transfers of a smart contract ( 1 or many ) and on each transfer use webhook to update my table .. plus i want to listen to deposits on array or wallet addresses which might be > 1 million addresses in future so i can push notifications to users .. custodial wallet here .. currently i use moralis but is ehivh other cheaper better service to use

Jul 1, 2023, 5:52 PM

alchemy

infura ... not sure of cost comparison between these three

but you can check iut

Jul 1, 2023, 6:22 PM

What are the costs on moralis?

Jul 1, 2023, 6:47 PM

I paid ~450$ per year

Jul 1, 2023, 6:48 PM

set up your own node :) it would cost u abount $200/month on hetzner, it's price of infura 1.000.000 requests/day plan

Jul 2, 2023, 4:57 AM

I tried to set up node and the cost was 600 almost

Digital ocean

Jul 2, 2023, 4:58 AM

digital ocean has very expensive SSDs

hetzner.com

check out them

Jul 2, 2023, 4:59 AM

And i still didnt test if a looot a requests what will happen

Because i have gated chat groups

Jul 2, 2023, 4:59 AM

you mean on a node?

Jul 2, 2023, 4:59 AM

U own nft u can message

Yes

I will check it

Or i should create kind of indexer then query a db maybe

Jul 2, 2023, 5:00 AM

yes, there are special services for that like https://www.subsquid.io/

Jul 2, 2023, 5:02 AM

I will check it because moralis has ready solution , they take care of the node and indexing and webhooks

But worth to look into because i am into a huge ecosystem being built now

So better to have a light node

Jul 2, 2023, 5:04 AM

moralis plans are pretty expensive too i think

just keep in mind that you can just run node and share costs with a friend, and it will still be much cheaper than infura/alchemy/moralis especially for a big project like a one you are building

Jul 2, 2023, 5:06 AM

True

I will research more but i think a light node and index data to a db then query the db maybe

Jul 2, 2023, 5:08 AM

light node works terrible usually, because it needs to query other nodes, which are sometimes just busy or don't accepting requests from light peers

and this affects performance badly, it's always faster to fetch data from your ssd, than from someone else's

the good way to go would be to setup archive node for couple days, index the db and turn it down (prune down to full-node maybe)

Jul 2, 2023, 5:09 AM

So i need a full node

U think for polygon would be same setup as for ethereum

Jul 2, 2023, 5:11 AM

no, polygon is much more heavy

Jul 2, 2023, 5:12 AM

Hmm am running on polygon

Jul 2, 2023, 5:12 AM

polygon archive node is 16 tb, while eth is like 3

Jul 2, 2023, 5:12 AM

But i dont want old data

Since what i care about is our nft collection transfers and the custody of wallets when users deposit

Transfers because if they list on our marketplace and sell on another i have to delist

And when users deposit to custodial wallets i should update balance and push notifications

At least for now these are the 2 main concerns

Jul 2, 2023, 5:14 AM

I like them but running a node is against their policy and you can get kicked

Jul 2, 2023, 5:14 AM

than full node is going to be nice for you

i thought that only mining is prohibited, not node running?
it's weird, i am just storing a pretty big database

Jul 2, 2023, 5:16 AM

Hmmm

Jul 2, 2023, 5:20 AM

Unfortunately not, they don't like anything crypto related.

https://twitter.com/Hetzner_Online/status/1563083561975984130?s=20

Jul 2, 2023, 5:20 AM

So i have to find where to host my full node

Polygon

If i decided to go in that direction

Jul 2, 2023, 5:21 AM

If it was eth I'd probably get my own hardware. For polygon id use alchemy or whatever service

Jul 2, 2023, 5:22 AM

will check alchemy prices comparing to moralis

Or as u said if i have multiple projects i can use the same node

Jul 2, 2023, 5:29 AM

To use an RPC provider's full node shared enpoint is extremely cheap
If you are going to compare prices you can use our calculator where you can chose the methods you are going to use and see the prices on different providers.
Wihtout it you will be locked in different request units with 1x..1000x range of weights on different methods

Jul 2, 2023, 8:37 AM